Inspiring Behaviour Change
IBC Masterclass
The full training handout. How to stop debating and start coaching, so that the person in front of you talks themselves towards veganism and leaves knowing exactly what they are going to do next.
Welcome
Thank you for taking an interest in developing your animal rights advocacy skills. The skills in this training increase the percentage of people who go vegan, or take steps towards it, after speaking with you.
In this course you will learn
- How to avoid debates and arguments
- How to reduce defensiveness in others
- How to manage other people's egos
- How to help people explore their values, and what questions to ask
- How to help people align their actions with those values
We The Free did not invent this training, which is why we can quite humbly say it is pretty good. It is an evidence-based coaching method delivered to professionals all over the world, designed to let people have difficult conversations without triggering emotional responses and defensiveness. Both facilitators had taken very similar trainings in previous careers, in adult social care management and in sales. Around 5,000 activists have now been trained on this format.
Other forms of communication exist and they are not invalid. All we ask right now is that you commit to giving this method a try, and see the impact it has on your own conversations.
On behalf of the animals, thank you for being here.
Inspiration over education
Most people assume that being good at vegan outreach means memorising facts and figures so you can teach them to people on the street.
That assumption is very common, and it is worth spending a moment on why it fails. You can spend weeks watching outreach videos and reading nutrition research, building a stock of details to bring up in conversation, and still find that almost nobody is compelled by any of it. Facts and logic do matter to some people when they make big decisions. Feelings and emotions matter to almost everyone. Think about why you went vegan yourself.
Take a moment and think about the best teacher you ever had. Did they simply tell you facts, or did they inspire you to learn for yourself?
We have asked a lot of people this question. The teachers people remember took a special interest so they could understand each student's needs, and they got those students learning on their own. That is the energy we want to bring into a vegan conversation.
Most of the people we speak to in the street already hold vegan values. They consider themselves animal lovers, or they say they do not like seeing animals suffer. Their actions are simply out of alignment with those values.
Clarity and the three As
If most people already hold vegan values, what is missing? Clarity. The objective of outreach is to help people reach the moment where the connection lands.
Awareness
I am aware of what is happening to animals and I know what is going on. Most people are far removed from how animals become animal products, clever marketing implies something humane happens along the way, and many have genuinely never given it much thought.
Accountability
I am responsible for helping, we do not need to treat animals this way, and I have a role in this. Being aware of an injustice without ever connecting it to your own shopping habits is very common, as is assuming it is somebody else's job, usually the government's.
Action
I know what action to take. I have to go vegan. This is easy once someone knows how. Most vegans know how simple it is to reach for the oat milk, which is a long way from how it feels to the vegan-curious.
Cognitive dissonance
The thing that most often gets in the way of clarity.
Cognitive dissonance is the mental toll placed on a person when they hold two or more contradictory beliefs.
Belief A
"I love animals. I am a good person."
Belief B
"I pay for animals to be killed, dismembered and mutilated for a sandwich and a pair of shoes."
What it does to a conversation
The inner conflict produces:
- Extreme discomfort
- Anger and defensiveness
- Misdirected emotions
People experiencing it may deny, rationalise or ignore the information. If you have done outreach for a while, you have had someone misdirect their anger at you, and been told that you are the problem, that you are pushing an agenda, or that you have been brainwashed. Understanding the mechanism is what stops you taking it personally. You were very likely once there yourself.
With a mixture of attitude and skill. Both are covered next.
Attitude
The harder half of the pair, and the one that significantly alters your success rate.
Is she evil?
A thought experiment used in the live workshop. Picture a young girl eating a piece of animal flesh, and answer the question at three different ages.
She is 6
Probably fairly innocent. Most six year olds do not understand that pork is pig or that a hot dog was an animal. With no awareness, she cannot hold accountability or take action.
She is 16
She now knows pork was pig and beef was cow, so the awareness is there. She also lives at home, buys none of her own meals, sits under heavy social pressure, and has been conditioned her whole life. Accountability is much harder to hold.
She is 26
She has watched Dominion start to finish and is still not vegan. This is the point that splits a live room. She has full awareness and clearly cares in some capacity, because most people never watch that footage at all.
So what is interfering at 26? Possibly misconceptions about health or cost. Possibly social pressure. Possibly she has just moved out on her own, knows no other vegans, and has no idea how to take action.
It is deliberately a strong word. You do not have to agree that she is innocent. The purpose of the exercise is the attitude you carry into a conversation, because walking in believing that this person is evil will not help you.
Good people acting against their values
A second, shorter experiment. Do you think child labour and unfair working practices are good and moral things? Almost certainly not. Now: in the last two years, have you bought at least one item of clothing without being 100% sure it could not have come from child labour or unfair working practices?
The point being made is that lots of good people sometimes act against their own values, through ignorance or negligence. The comparison is imperfect, because buying animal products definitely supports animal exploitation where the clothing might have done. The principle still holds.
To be completely clear: We The Free is abolitionist, and we will not stop fighting until every slaughterhouse on the planet shuts down. What is happening to animals is a global atrocity, and someone feeling offended is nothing compared to what animals go through. If you want to speak the animals' truth loudly, those feelings are valid.
Raising awareness that way is a morally right thing to do. The question worth asking yourself separately is whether it is effective, and some studies would advise that it is not.
Why your attitude reaches them
For some people you are the first vegan they have properly spoken to, so the impression matters. You want them walking away saying you were kind and supportive and seemed to be on their side, rather than saying that the vegan was an arsehole.
Around 93% of communication is non-verbal. Your body language and facial expressions carry how you actually feel. You have vibed with someone without being able to explain why, and failed to vibe with someone else the same way, because most of it happens subconsciously.
A feeling that a person or thing is beneath you, beneath consideration, or worthless. People detect it. At worst it makes them confrontational, and at best you simply will not be taken seriously.
Think of someone who held you in contempt and thought they were better than you. Would you take their advice on anything? Now think about that best teacher again, and aim for that instead.
Pre-vegans
Give people the benefit of the doubt. They may not be evil at all. They may be experiencing cognitive dissonance or lacking clarity, and what they need right now is a good conversation with a good vegan coach. Think back to yourself before you were vegan. That person was a pre-vegan who had not made the connection yet, and extending the same reading to the people you meet changes how you speak to them.
Skill takes practice
This training on its own will not make you a master of vegan outreach. Watching a two hour guitar tutorial will not make you Jimi Hendrix either.
For most of us this is a new way of communicating, and it takes time to absorb. You will make mistakes, which is genuinely useful, because every mistake is something to learn from.
What we recommend
- Take the workshop two or three times. Plenty of people do it live on Zoom or in person more than once to solidify it.
- Take notes as you go.
- Organise a role play session with activist friends locally.
- Get onto the street and actually implement it. Nothing else comes close.
Debate or coaching
Why debates backfire
Traditionally a debate is two experts exchanging ideas so an audience can decide who is right. For the two people inside it, the goal is to win. Which makes the other person a loser, and nobody wants to be a loser.
That dynamic triggers defensiveness, and it pushes people towards intellectually dishonest arguments as an ego response. Studies show that two people entering a debate with opposing views leave more convinced of their original position. That backfire effect still applies if you are the nicest and most respectful person in the world.
Debates do have a place in vegan activism. Spectators are neither winner nor loser, so they can weigh the arguments freely. On a stage or in a YouTube video, winning a debate is genuinely good for the animals. For one to one conversations on the street, inspire instead.
What a coach does
Teaching is generally one-sided, with the teacher providing instruction. A talented coach knows exactly which question to ask to draw out the information you already have, then adds their own expertise to fill in the gaps.
People believe what they say, not what they hear.
Keep this in mind through every vegan conversation you have. It is the reason the entire framework is built out of questions.
You tell them
"This is wrong, and it happens because you pay for people to abuse animals, and you should go vegan today."
They tell you
"This is wrong, and it goes against my values of caring about animals, and it happens because we buy animal products even though I have a choice to be vegan."
The second version might sound implausible. The questions in the next two sections have a track record of producing it.
Approaching people
Before any of the questions, you have to open the conversation without triggering the reflex that makes people walk away.
Event formats
TV street outreach
The WTF Diamond, Cube of Truth, Earthling Experience, freedom formations. Activists stand in busy places holding screens showing standard practice footage, then talk to members of the public who stop and watch.
3 Minute Movie Challenge
Signs invite the public to watch three minutes and win a prize. Participants sit at a viewing station with headphones or a tablet, watch a three minute supercut of an animal rights documentary, then get a vegan treat and a conversation.
Teams running the 3 Minute Movie Challenge report more conversations, better conversations, and far fewer confrontations than at diamond and cube style events. It is consensual: people choose to sit down and watch, and they are generally thankful for the exposure. We believe it is the best technology available to us right now for street advocacy, and we recommend teams host it for most of their events.
The same 15 questions work at a 3MMC. Skip questions 3 and 4, which no longer apply.
The approach itself
Picture yourself walking through a city centre, minding your own business, when a stranger walks up with a smile and says hello. You assume they want something: a charity signup, double glazing, a broadband package, your driveway cleaned. Plenty of people are conflict averse, and the reflex is to look down, cross the road, or pull out a phone and fake a call.
Standard event guidance says to wait 30 to 60 seconds before approaching someone watching the footage. When they turn and leave just as you set off, the usual assumption is that you waited too long. Often something else happened: they clocked you walking towards them, and left because of it.
- Come in from the side Never from behind, which is startling. Move around as though you are going to stand next to them and watch the footage together.
- Angle, do not face Turn roughly 30 to 45 degrees towards them without looking directly at them, so you are still watching the screen alongside them.
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Open with a question
Do you know what's going on here?
If they need context, point at your shirt logo or a sign and explain who you are.
We're all volunteers from a group called We The Free. We're not trying to sell anything today. There are actually thousands of groups just like ours all around the world, and we basically go into busy places, city centres, and show people this footage and talk about where our food comes from.
Do not pause. Go straight into question 1 without leaving a gap for "no thanks, I'm not interested."
15 powerful questions
Four objectives, mapped onto the three As. Seeing the footage builds awareness, identifying feelings surfaces values, naming the problem generates accountability, and finding the solution produces action.
Robotic delivery gets detected. It will not feel genuine, and people will assume you have an agenda. You do have an agenda, and so did the best teacher you ever had: they had a syllabus to get through, and you still felt seen, heard and supported. Aim for the other person being an active participant rather than a passive recipient.
Seen
AwarenessHave you seen this type of footage before?
If this is their first time, do not rush forward. Avoid asking whether they are vegan, why not, or why any of this happens. Let them experience it. The footage is one of the most powerful tools in the toolkit, and the moment they start justifying their own actions they stop watching the screen and look at you instead.
Where have you seen it?
Most people have never watched a documentary start to finish, so this gauges how much they have actually seen. If it is new to them, spend a few minutes standing beside them and watching with them. If you cannot watch the footage yourself, stare past it and stay there to answer questions, or gently narrate what is on screen: "this is a dairy cow, she's having her baby taken from her."
What have you seen here so far? Skip at 3MMC
Useful at busy events where you cannot track how long someone has been standing there. Also a good gauge of whether it is time to start talking about feelings.
Come closer. Skip at 3MMC
An invitation rather than a question. For people hanging back on a bench or watching from twenty metres away, where the footage cannot land. People need to be close enough to see the emotion in the animals' eyes: around three metres for a 32 inch screen, one to two metres for a tablet or laptop. Events develop an invisible fence that people will not cross, so walk to the right distance yourself and invite them over.
Come closer, don't worry, we won't bite.
This was once phrased "would you like to come closer?" We changed it. People have pattern recognition for being offered something by a stranger, so the first reaction is "what's the catch?", followed by a sense that they will owe you something in return. A plain invitation avoids both.
Feel
ValuesThis is where you draw out the vegan values that most people already hold, which is what generates accountability later.
How do you feel when you see this?
Most answers are a variation of bad, mad or sad. "This is terrible." "I'm heartbroken." "I'm furious, I want to rip that guy's head off."
Remember their exact word. You will use it again later to remind them how strongly they felt.
What specifically makes you feel ______?
Some people volunteer everything: their whole history with animals, the cow in the field near their house, all of their values at once. Most are less forthcoming, because you are a stranger and the rapport is not there yet. This digs a level deeper.
What is it about animals being treated this way that bothers you?
Best used when someone acknowledges it is bad but cannot articulate why. This is the question that points them straight at their own vegan values, and gets them recognising that animals have worth, are unique, and deserve not to suffer.
How do you think the animals feel?
Never skip this one unless they have already told you unprompted. For many people this is the first time they have ever empathised with an animal who is going to be killed for food.
James's own light bulb moment came watching Cowspiracy: a duck having their neck stretched over a chopping block on a small, local, family-run farm. As the hatchet came down he felt genuine sorrow for that animal. That empathy gave him the why to go vegan, and from there all he needed was the how.
Problem
AccountabilityGiven that most people are against this, what do you think causes this to happen?
Some people go straight to "because we eat animals." Most do not, because of the "I am a good person" belief underneath. Expect deflections: the government should act, the RSPCA should act, that farmer in the footage is a bad person.
What else do you think causes it?
Rather than correcting the deflection, agree with it and keep going. The government should do something, the RSPCA should do something, and maybe that farmer is awful. Then ask what else, holding up a hand to signal there are several causes. Agreeing first builds the rapport you need before you hold them accountable.
When they land on it, validate it:
Yes, we do buy animal products, and that causes it to happen. When we buy them we are essentially voting for that to happen. We're voting with our pounds.
Do we have to do this to animals?
This addresses the second half of the problem, which is that we have a choice. Do we have to do this to be healthy, to be happy, to have a good life? If they answer yes, that we need animal products for protein, you have an objection, and you move into the framework in section 11. You cannot have a conversation about veganism with someone who believes it is impossible.
Solution
ActionGiven that, how do you think we can stop this?
Expect the same deflections towards the government or the farm, and handle them the same way.
What do you think we can do as individuals to help?
Keep asking "what else?" until they arrive at going vegan themselves. Signing a petition and donating money are common first answers. If they never get there, ask directly: "do you think it would help these animals if we go vegan?"
Would that be too difficult for you?
This invites the objection. Sometimes people flip the script entirely and start defending veganism back to you, pointing out that any difficulty is nothing next to what the animals go through. Otherwise you get the real concern: cost, health, a partner who does the cooking.
What would be the most difficult thing for you?
The hinge of the whole conversation, and essential when agreement comes too easily. Plenty of people are conflict averse and will tell you what you want to hear to escape. Watch the body language: in recordings of street conversations you can often see someone agree to go vegan without believing a word of it.
If they say "I don't know", prompt them:
If you decide right now that from today you're never going to eat animal products again, would it be hard knowing what to eat, where to shop, how to eat out? Do you think it would affect your budget? Do you think vegan food will taste good? Do you think any of your friends and family would give you a hard time?
You are deliberately helping them generate objections, because talking to you is their best opportunity to solve them. Across hundreds or thousands of conversations, this question has never once produced a desert island scenario. It surfaces genuine fears every time.
What is not an objection
Our movement has finite time, money and volunteers, so spending them well matters. Three things that look like objections and are not.
Intellectually dishonest arguments
Plants feel pain. Desert island scenarios. Nobody believes in their heart that slicing a carrot is morally equal to stabbing a pig in the throat. People reach for these when they feel backed into a corner.
Gotchas
"Aren't those leather shoes?" Attempts to point out inconsistencies in you or in other vegans they know.
The vegan who almost died
A friend of a friend who tried veganism and got seriously ill. James's estimate is that people are making this up essentially every time.
When the "I know someone who almost died" story appears, respond with genuine enthusiasm:
That's so interesting, I'd love to find out more about that so I can make sure I don't fall into the same obstacles. Is there any way I can get in touch with this person and find out what went wrong?
There is always some mystery reason why they cannot be contacted. What is really happening is that someone views veganism as an inconvenience they do not want, so they reach for a half-remembered news story to justify it instead of saying "I don't want to."
Objection Whac-A-Mole
The trap where your conversation turns into an arcade game. They pop up with "plants feel pain", you whack it down with central nervous systems. Another pops up with "are those leather shoes", and down that goes too. You spend the whole conversation rapid-firing at objections.
If you find yourself playing objection Whac-A-Mole, you have fallen into a debate where you both now have the objective of winning. The research says they will leave more convinced than when they arrived. Recover by going back to question 15:
Obviously that's not the reason why you can't go vegan. So what would be the hardest thing for you if you were to go vegan right now?
Should you be afraid of objections?
No. Objections are your greatest tool. There is a large body of sales training around "getting to no", covered well in Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss. Weak salespeople want to hear yes. Skilled ones want to reach the objection so they can help the person past it.
Almost nobody has zero objections to veganism. Even people who went vegan from a single documentary usually had objections before that moment. Talking at someone continuously so they never get the chance to raise one wastes the opportunity.
The six common genuine objections
Health
Protein, B12, vitamin D, or a specific health need.
Taste
Vegan food will not be as enjoyable, or a favourite food is impossible.
Cost
Vegan food would be too expensive.
Convenience
Vegan food is not accessible enough for me.
Social pressure
I do not want to be different, or my peers will not support me.
Religious
Can I still practise my faith as a vegan?
The 7-step framework
This is tricky at first and takes practice. It is worth it.
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Listen, do not interrupt
Demonstrate that you are listening and make
them feel heard.
You may have heard the protein question a thousand times, and you may be rolling your eyes internally. For them it might be the first time they have seriously considered veganism, so create the space.
No private planning
While they talk, resist silently assembling your rebuttal. That is exactly how you miss their actual point, their real concern, and their signals.
Listening body language
- Mm-hmm, and nodding
- Turning slightly towards them to give them your ear, the natural gesture everyone recognises from dogs
- Open posture, open palms, no clenched fists
- Be attentive and present
Record your own conversationsClip a lapel mic to your shirt, hide it in your beard, or put it in your pocket, and listen back afterwards to critique yourself. James found he was talking at people about 80% of the time while they tried to squeeze a word in edgeways, and he had genuinely believed those conversations were effective.
A good coach flips that ratio: roughly 20% you asking thought-provoking questions, 80% them exploring their values while you give them your time, space and attention.
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Acknowledge
Confirm that you have understood them
correctly.
If I understand you correctly, this bothers you, but your concern is ______. Is that correct?
Stronger, using the emotion word you memorised at question 5:
If I understand you correctly, this makes you feel heartbroken, what happens to these animals. But your concern is that adopting a plant-based diet would have a negative impact on your health. Is that correct?
This does two jobs. They feel heard, and you avoid burning the conversation solving the wrong problem because you misheard them.
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Empathise
Establish commonality, because we are more
influenced by people we have things in common
with.
Feel, felt, found
I understand how you feel. I felt the same way. What I found is…
Worked through on a health objection:
I understand how you feel. When I first started thinking about going vegan I felt the same way. What I found is I felt much healthier, I had more energy, I practically jumped out of bed in the morning, and I even lost some weight.
When you cannot share their position
Someone says they love the smell and taste of bacon. James once owned a shirt saying everything is better with bacon, and now sees the dismembered body parts of the friends he works to save. Honest empathy on that specific point is impossible, so go one level up and empathise with the value you share:
I understand how you feel. Like most people, taste is one of the most important things in my life. Having delicious tasting food matters to me, and I love getting together with friends and family and sharing good food. Fortunately, what I found is I enjoy my food more now as a vegan than I ever have in my life.
Empathise on the value you share, rather than the opinion that divides you.
Vicarious empathy
When you lack credibility for a specific claim, route it through someone else. A self-described big guy telling a bodybuilder that he is the healthiest he has ever been will get dismissed on sight.
My friend had exactly the same concerns when he first started thinking about going vegan. He was worried about his training, his recovery time, his muscle growth, getting the right macros and micros. What he found is he had explosive energy, his workouts improved, his recovery improved, and his friends at the gym started asking what his secret was. Most of them are on plant-based diets now.
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Ask questions
Past, present, hypothetical future. The hardest
part of the whole training.
Find a similar problem they solved in the past or are solving in the present, then apply that same method to their future as a vegan. Section 12 breaks this down in detail.
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Reiterate
Confirm understanding and play back three steps
to success.
So you're going to research vegan meal prep ideas, ask your friend where he gets his protein powder, and go shopping for the ingredients.
The rule of threes
People remember in threes. Sun, sea and sand. Blood, sweat and tears. Stop, drop and roll. Marketing campaigns and public information campaigns use it constantly for this reason.
Voss's rule of three
A different idea with a confusingly similar name: getting the other person to agree to the same thing three times in one conversation, which triples the strength of the commitment. Applied here, find three angles on one action. "You're going to do some research. Where will you do it? How will you do it? Who will you ask?"
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Present solutions
Fill in the gaps with your own expertise. This
is the first point in the framework where you
share what you know.
Experienced outreachers are effectively vegan experts, and the urge to share arrives much earlier than step six. Holding it until here is the discipline, because people believe what they say.
Do not hand out homeworkA stack of leaflets, websites and a long list of documentaries makes going vegan feel enormous. Pick one or two highly relevant resources instead.
Take out the closing card, which carries We The Free on one side and 3movies.wtf on the other, leading to a library of vegan resources. Take a pen out, get down on one knee, and write your one or two specific recommendations on the back. The physical act of a personal recommendation is part of what makes it land.
- Bodybuilder: The Game Changers. Pitch it with enthusiasm, because it is about elite athletes going plant-based for the athletic advantage rather than for ethics.
- Cooking and taste: Challenge 22, a free mentor programme that answers questions, helps with cooking, and connects people with a nutritionist.
- Convenience and eating out: HappyCow, which maps vegan restaurants anywhere in the world. Free to use on the web.
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Gain agreement
End with a call to action. Always ask for
it.
Be direct, and use their name if you have it:
So Bobby, I've really enjoyed talking to you, but I'm really curious: will you do it?
A softer alternative if the rapport is not quite there, which leaves the ball in their court:
Will you do anything differently following our conversation today?
If the answer is no because vegan food tastes like crap, that is simply another objection, and you work it.
Step 4 in depth
We cannot tell you exactly which questions to ask, because it depends entirely on the person in front of you. Here is the method underneath it.
We want to help them overcome the objection they face. We could simply tell them the answer, except that people believe what they say. So we ask questions to find out whether they already hold the knowledge to solve their own problem, and the simplest route is finding out whether they have solved a similar problem before.
Three tenses, two at a time
Find a similar problem in the past, or one they are solving in the present, then apply that method to the present or the future as a vegan. A future framing that works well:
Imagine a month from now, you can't sleep at night, you're tossing and turning thinking about what happens to animals, and you know you can no longer contribute to this. How would you solve this problem?
Drill into the specifics
Vague answers are useless to you. Keep going until you have the actual mechanism. Here is the bodybuilder meal prep example played out:
How did you learn about meal prep?
I did some research.
What research did you do?
I went online.
So you go on Google. What do you type into Google?
Bodybuilder meal prep.
If I type that in now there'd be hundreds of thousands of results. How did you decide which one to check?
There was one from a reputable magazine, and it had really good reviews, so I tried that.
And if the first one wasn't to your liking, the food tasted bland, or you weren't getting the results you needed? Presumably you'd have tried different guides.
Yeah.
Was there anybody else you asked for advice?
I asked my buddy at the gym, about protein powders and what workouts to do.
And if you'd needed more help than your friend could give, where would you have looked? They have now described exactly how they became an expert. Apply it.
Then move it across:
How would you learn which plant-based foods are protein rich? Where would you look? How would you decide which website to trust? Where could you find vegan meal prep ideas? Do you know any vegans at the gym who could tell you where they buy their protein powder?
A second worked example: cost
A student says they cannot afford expensive vegan food. The misconception usually comes from seeing a fifteen pound plant-based burger on a pub menu without fries, without realising that is a speciality item carrying a huge markup.
You could just tell them that rice, beans, vegetables and legumes are the cheapest food in the shop. Instead, start in the present:
When you go shopping, what are the most expensive items you buy? Is it the rice and broccoli, or the steaks and chicken breast? How often do you eat those, every day or as a once-a-week treat? What budget-friendly meals do you cook in between?
Then apply it to the future:
How would you learn to budget when shopping for plant-based foods? Would you eat manufactured vegan alternatives every meal, or occasionally as a treat? Where would you look for budget-friendly vegan recipes? What would you type into the internet? Are there any Facebook groups you could join? Who could you ask for advice?
That is fine. You will fill in the gaps with your own expert knowledge at step 6. Right now you are only trying to find out what they already know, so that you have less to fill in later.
Reframing and what ifs
Two techniques that slot into steps 3 and 4 when someone is still on the fence.
Reframing sacrifice as gain
A lot of people see veganism as something they have to give up. Reframe it as something they stand to gain.
For a bodybuilder
Imagine you change your diet today, and not only does it have no negative impact on your training, maybe you even see some benefits. Maybe your recovery time improves, maybe you have better workouts, maybe all the guys at the gym are asking what your secret is. But really, you know in your heart that the biggest difference is that no animal suffered as a result of this decision. How would that feel?
For a taste objection
Let's say you veganise your favourite beef hot pot, and not only is it delicious, maybe it's cheaper to make because you're not buying beef, maybe it's nutritionally better, maybe your family says it's the best one you've ever made. But really, in your heart, you know the biggest difference is that no animal suffered for it. How would that feel?
The answer is almost always some version of "that would feel great."
What if questions
For testing commitment when their solutions sound shallow, or when you simply do not quite believe them.
Let's say you try to veganise that beef hot pot and it's really not to your liking, the consistency of the beef alternative isn't right. What would you do? Would you try a different one? Who might you ask for help? Where would you look for support?
What if you get a recommendation for a vegan protein powder and you don't like the taste or consistency? How would you make sure the next one is better? What if the meal prep recipes are complicated, you can't find the ingredients, and you're not getting the gains you hoped for? How would you make sure it doesn't have a negative impact on your health and your training?
Role plays
Two full run-throughs from the workshop, played straight rather than with curve balls, so that the seven steps stay visible. If your real conversations are constantly full of curve balls and desert island scenarios, that is a sign you are falling into debates.
01 Taste objection: the chicken schnitzel
Starting from question 15. The objection: she would miss the taste, she loves the way meat tastes, and she feels like an awful person for saying it.
If I understand you correctly, it really bothers you what happens to animals. In fact you mentioned earlier that you felt really heartbroken by what was on the screen. But you're worried that if you adopt a plant-based diet it would have a negative impact on the sensory satisfaction you get from eating meals. Correct? Step 2: acknowledge, reusing her emotion word
When I first started thinking about going vegan I really worried I wouldn't enjoy my food anymore, because like most people food is one of the most important things in my life. What I found is I enjoy my food more now as a vegan than I ever have in my entire life. Step 3: empathise on the shared value
What's your comfort meal, the one you really couldn't live without? Step 4: find the past problem
My favourite comfort meal is a chicken schnitzel. It's my go-to.
Do you eat that out, or cook it yourself? And how did you learn to cook it?
Both. I decided I loved it when I tried it, so I wanted to make it myself, and I Googled some recipes.
That's not a niche thing, so it must come up with a whole bunch of options. How did you decide which one to try?
One with five stars that wasn't overly complicated. But I had to try a couple of recipes. The first one, the breading went wrong and some ingredients were hard to get, so I picked a simpler one.
And has it improved over time as you've learned the recipe? Have you made your own tweaks?
Definitely. I'm master chef at it now. I add my own little jazz to it.
How would you feel if you did a bit of research, found a vegan schnitzel recipe, made it, and not only was it delicious and just as easy to make, but you also knew in your heart that no animals needed to suffer for it? Reframe: sacrifice becomes gain
Yeah, that would feel great.
So you'd do the same thing, go on Google and type chicken schnitzel recipes, but add the word vegan. Believe me, there are a lot of them. How would you decide which one to make? Apply the past method to the future
Same as before. Highest reviews, try a couple out, see what's best.
What if the first vegan schnitzel recipe just isn't to your liking, the texture's not quite right, it doesn't taste how you remembered? What if question: test the commitment
I'll try a couple of recipes, that's fine.
Knowing what the animals go through, it'd be worth putting a bit of effort in to find one that tastes nice, doesn't cost a fortune, and has the right texture. That'd be worth it to you?
Yeah, definitely.
So you're going to do a bit of research and find a vegan chicken schnitzel recipe, you're going to try cooking it, and if the first one doesn't work out you'll try a second or a third. Step 5: reiterate in threes
I've got this card. It's our website, 3movies.wtf, basically a vegan resources library with recipes, videos and a mentor programme. I'm writing this down for you: there's a really good vegan schnitzel recipe on there. I'd also strongly recommend signing up to Challenge 22, the mentor programme, so that if you run into problems they've got nutritionists and dieticians who can help. Step 6: fill in the gaps, one or two resources only
Will you do that? Step 7: gain agreement
Yeah, I'll do it.
Great. I believe in you. You can do it.
02 Convenience objection: eating out
The objection: veganism seems really inconvenient, and most of his favourite restaurants have no vegan options on the menu.
If I understand you correctly, you're worried that some of your favourite restaurants aren't going to have vegan options, and it's going to end up being inconvenient when you're out. Is that right? Step 2: acknowledge
I totally understand how you feel. I felt the same way before I went vegan, that I wasn't going to be able to eat, and that travelling would be really hard. What I found is that it's actually super easy. Let me ask you, is there anything currently in your life that you have to plan ahead for when you're going out? Step 3 into step 4: feel, felt, found, then hunt for the past problem
My wife has quite a severe peanut allergy. That's why we have a small repertoire of restaurants we go to, ones we've built a relationship with over a few years, who are really good with allergens and list them all on the menu. We told them that if they accidentally give her peanuts she could die. We carry an EpiPen just in case.
I'm sorry to hear about your wife's allergy, that sounds difficult. It also sounds like you've both put in a lot of effort to make sure you can eat out safely, and did quite a bit of legwork to get there. So if you go home tonight, and that feeling you described earlier carries on, and you feel you can't contribute to this anymore, how are you going to make sure you can still have delicious vegan options when you eat out? Acknowledge the effort, then apply it forward
I guess I could ask the four or five restaurants we go to. Explain that we both want to try eating vegan, and ask whether they've got something on the menu they could change, replace the chicken with tofu or something.
And if it turns out that all those restaurants say no, they can't do it and they can't change the menu, what will you do then? What if question
That would suck, we've given them a lot of business. But I guess I could look at the vegan restaurants nearby and see if they can cater to my wife's nut allergy too. Might be difficult, but I can ask.
So you're going to contact the restaurants that already accommodate your wife's allergy and ask if they can put some vegan options on, and if they won't, you're going to look at vegan restaurants. Right? Step 5: reiterate
I've actually got something that'll help with that. This card, 3movies.wtf. Scroll past the documentaries and you'll see HappyCow. The website's free to use, and it shows all the vegan restaurants near you, wherever you are in the world. There are lots in your surrounding area. Step 6: fill in the gaps
So you're going to do it? Step 7: gain agreement
Yeah, I'll try.
You can do it. I believe in you.
Objection playbooks
Talking points for the six most common genuine objections. Treat these as prompts for drawing out solutions the person already has, rather than as scripts to recite.
01 Health
Either a generic "veganism is unhealthy", or a specific health need.
- How did you learn to meet your health need in the past? What did you research?
- How do you currently prioritise your health? What steps do you take?
- If you decided to go vegan, how would you ensure you get all the right nutrients? What research would you do? Who would you ask?
- What steps would you take to learn how to meet your specific health need on a vegan diet?
02 Taste
Usually the perception that vegan food does not taste good, or that a favourite food is impossible without animal products. "I could never give up cheese."
- What are your favourite meals? Do you usually cook, or eat out?
- How did you learn to cook? How did you find recipes?
- How did you learn which restaurants are your favourite, trial and error or research?
- How would you go about making your favourite meal as a vegan? What research would you do? How would you decide on a recipe?
- How would you find vegan options for takeaways or restaurants? How would you decide which to try?
- How would you find out if your favourite restaurant can provide vegan options? What would you say to them?
03 Cost
Based on the misconception that vegan food is expensive.
- How do you currently manage your budget?
- When you shop for groceries, what tend to be the more expensive food types?
- How did you learn to manage a budget?
- How would you learn to budget on a vegan diet?
04 Convenience
Based on concerns that vegan food is less accessible.
- Has there been a time in your life where you needed to plan ahead?
- How do you currently deal with inconveniences?
- How will you find out what vegan options are available?
- As a vegan, how would you plan ahead to make sure you have options wherever you go?
05 Social pressure
People commonly fear being different, or need support with big changes.
- Has there been a time in your life when you needed another person to support you with something, even when they didn't understand it themselves?
- How did you ask that person for support?
- Has there ever been a time where you had to embrace being different because of something that's important to you?
- As a new vegan, how would you go about asking others to support you?
06 Religious
See section 16 for the full treatment, including the test question that reveals whether this is the real objection. The talking points themselves:
- How did you learn how to be a good [Christian]? Who did you ask?
- Did you ever make a mistake?
- What are the guiding principles or values of your faith? Are those compatible with veganism?
- If you wanted to be a good [Christian] and adopt a vegan lifestyle, where would you start?
- Who could you ask for advice?
- What kind of research would you do?
Difficult situations
The questions that come up most often at the end of a live workshop.
Religious objections
These arrive in two forms: that the religion permits animal products, or that it requires them for ceremonies, offerings or sacrifices.
In practice this is usually not the actual reason somebody is not considering veganism. It works as a safety net that lets them avoid confronting their real fears.
I'm vegan, and this is really important to me. If I wanted to join your faith, but being vegan is very important to me and I can't take part in those sacrifices, is that possible? Could I join your faith as a vegan?
About nine times out of ten the answer is yes: you would just need to speak to a priest, cleric or scholar about permitted substitutions, such as donating money instead of including an egg in a ceremony. Most religious people know substitutions exist.
Then set religion aside and go looking for the real objection:
So it is possible for me to be vegan and also be a proud member of your faith. Let's put the ceremonies to one side then. Apart from religion, is there anything else that would be difficult? Would it be hard knowing what to cook or where to shop? Are you worried vegan food might be expensive or not taste as good? Would there be any social pressure?
Running the full seven steps on a religious objection also works. Acknowledge that being a good Christian matters enormously to them while what happened to the animals genuinely bothers them. Empathise, perhaps through a religious partner or friend. Ask how they learned to practise their faith in the first place: which prayers to observe, how to dress, how to act, how to treat other people, who they asked. Move it to the present: if you wanted to become vegan without affecting your ability to practise, how would you do it and who would you ask? Add what if questions. Reiterate the top three. Fill in the gaps with something specific, such as the Vegan Muslim Initiative. Then ask for the commitment.
Talking to farmers
The assumption that this framework fails with farmers is wrong. The same principles apply, and the biggest one is refusing to treat them with contempt.
A conversation outside a McDonald's
At a WTF Diamond in James's hometown in England, a husband and wife walked past. The wife was shouting that activists do not know what really goes on in farms and that the footage was propaganda. Very aggressive, very confrontational.
He answered that he does know, having been inside many farms including local ones, and named several. Then he asked a question rather than arguing: how did you get involved in farming?
They were both fifth generation farmers, deep inside the farming community, living not far from him, with people in common. He followed up: you've been farmers all your lives, you must have really strong relationships with the animals. They spent ten minutes describing the personalities of the animals on their farm, how special and unique each one is, and how much they love them.
The tempting response was "how can you say you love these animals when you kill them?" He set that aside, assumed cognitive dissonance, and asked one more question: there must have been times where you've seen difficult things, or had to make difficult decisions, or lost animals. Tell me about that.
The husband started crying. He described how every time he takes his sheep to slaughter he feels he is betraying them, and that it is the one part of the job he hates. His wife comforted him, saying at least they only had one that day, making clear this was a conversation they had had many times before.
James then asked what parts of farming matter most to them. Two answers came back. Being providers, for their family, their community and the nation. Being stewards, of the land, the ancient woodland, the fields and rivers their family has cared for across generations, and of the animals, for whom they hold a duty of care.
How would you feel if you could still do all of those things? If you could still be providers and feed your family, your community and the nation, and still be stewards, still take great care of this land and these animals, but you never had to take another animal to slaughter again?
They both nodded and said that would be amazing, while doubting it was possible. The conversation moved into a general vegan conversation, and came back later to organisations that support farmers through transitions away from slaughter. It began as a confrontation and ended with the couple thanking him, shaking his hand, and saying they would go away and seriously think about it.
Outreaching a group
Groups arrive together, often young lads being rowdy and trying to stir up trouble.
At a 3 Minute Movie Challenge you can largely design the problem away by separating them onto their own screens and then having separate conversations, which is ideal. At a TV street outreach event you cannot.
Speak to the leader, the influencer of the group. If they are being rambunctious and making jokes at your expense, joke back a little to build rapport. Step slightly outside the framework in tone while still treating them with respect and kindness. If the leader is confrontational and you are clearly not getting through, remember that you have an audience, and winning that one logically is acceptable, because spectators are not losers in the exchange.
When a conversation is going badly
This happens far less once you actually use the method. Jen's account: before the training she thought she was good at outreach and still got into arguments constantly, often walking away feeling terrible. Since implementing the method it hardly ever happens, and it does not escalate the way it used to.
Early defensiveness or anger is a red flag that you have fallen into a debate. Revert to the framework and rebuild rapport.
Giving someone a compliment makes them inclined to agree with whatever is attached to it.
I know you're a smart person, and you know the difference between chopping a dog's head off and chopping a carrot.
I know you're really kind and you care about animals…
Then ask a question. It builds rapport and breaks the ice.
Know when to walk away. If it keeps escalating, or you feel your own emotions rising and you are not in the right place to handle it, end it cleanly. "Thank you so much for the conversation, I hope you have a good day." We also run a conflict resolution workshop covering de-escalation techniques.
Keep practising
It is impossible to prepare for every eventuality. The most useful thing you can do now is practise.
Role play
Get together with a friend in your city who has been through this training. One of you plays the pre-vegan, one plays the vegan coach, then swap and try different approaches. We can also run role play sessions online with breakout groups if you ask us to.
Get on the street
Nothing substitutes for real conversations. Go out, use the framework, record yourself if you can, and let us know how it goes.
When you share feedback on this course, please feel free to be completely brutal and completely savage. You will not hurt our feelings. We want to make this as good as possible for everyone involved, so tell us when it goes well and tell us when it does not.
If there is anything you are still unsure about, get in touch and we will do our best to help. Email hello@activism.wtf, or ask in your We The Free group support chat.
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